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TERROR SQUAD
LOVED AND FEARED

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interview by Meshack Blaq
photos by Crocodile Dun

KRON:
On one of your past albums your intro comes straight out of "The Warriors" movie. Do you feel that Hip Hop can provide the new Warriors if we could ever get our shit together?
FAT JOE:
We're the leaders of the fuckin' world! We the only thing that the youth respect right now. People need to take notice and Niggaz need to realize that we run shit right now. We the new leaders so we are like the Warriors! Kids really look up to us and listen to us. That's why I always express that this Hip Hop shit is entertainment. Don't take what you hear in these records serious like that. Unless it's a serious artist that ain't into a buncha different shit. That's why I go around to speak to the kids and let `em know the truth. Don't believe half the shit you hear. Go with reality because we are Warriors. I don't know who killed Tupac, but in the year 2000 he woulda been a very important leader. I don't know if that was part of the plan to kill Tupac in order to get him out the way. He was with all that bullshit with East Coast West Coast, fuck Bad Boy, fuck this-fuck that. But he was also making songs like "White Man's World" and records that were conscious and uplifting the Youth. I think he probably scared somebody or two `cause his shit was deep and he came from the grassroots. He came from his family bein' Black Panthers and shit like that, so Niggaz knew to be scared. He definitely woulda been a leader sooner or later, somehow. Guaranteed! (Just then Pun, Cuban, & Prospect show up) Here come the pretty boys, an' shit!!
KRON:
(So while the Squad is slapping backs and hitting fists, I pull Triple Seis to the side) How did you get together with Fat Joe & the Terror Squad?
SEIS:
I knew Joe way before all this Rap shit. We always been heavy into sports, especially baseball. And I used to play Baseball on the block when we had games with building against building; his building against my building. So I was playin' as a young kid. That's how I knew him, but he was runnin' through the streets and I was much younger. Then I left for Colorado to play baseball in high school for Real. When I came back from Denver was when I really took Rap serious like, "Yea, this is what I wanna do". `Cause I seen that everything else was not workin'. School, baseball, hangin' out; nothin' was workin'. So I felt that this is what I had to do. So I took time to really start writing with all my heart. And that's when he had came out with "Flow Joe". He still didn't know who he was!
KRON:
So since Terror Squad is a big group of people, even ones we've never seen, who out of the group would you say you were runnin' with?
SEIS:
With Cuban & Pun. We was called Fulla Clips. It was me, Cuban & Pun as Fulla Clips back then. Cuban was Lyrical Assassin, I was Joker Jams, and Pun was Big Dog The Punisher.
KRON:
(Now Pun, Cuban and Prospect take seats around us at the table) So Pun, I heard from a little bird that there's a special Terror Squad lingo whenever you guys get together. I already heard about Triz. Whaddup with the lingua, Big Man?
BIG PUN:
There sure is, but we can't translate though. `Cause then you know, we'd have to kill you. (He's smiling a mouthful of platinum, but I know he ain't joking!)
KRON:
(I laugh nervously, but everyone else is dead silent and ain't smilin') Alright, well then I'll ask a different question that won't get me toe-tagged.
BIG PUN:
You heard that? (To the singing Publicist) When we talk about lingo, I already told that him we have to kill him afterwards.
KRON:
Please don't translate! (I hand Pun the digicam so he can see some of the flicks I took of him, hoping to calm him down.)
FAT JOE:
Nah, it's like you know... That's somethin' that grew up from the ancestors of Terror Squad too. Like when I broke it down about Gizmo & Cosmo. Yea, we always used to talk different languages and flip stupid shit. It was like 20 clowns and shit. We was always funny Niggaz so we always would say stupid shit, funny shit; and before you know it, one thing led to another and we noticed we had our own language.
BIG PUN:
The language was Spanish though, mixed up with a little slang, sorta with English. (If I literally transcribed the way Pun speaks, it would be like one long word instead of a sentence. The Brotha speaks volumes in less than a breathe, for Real! Sometimes he speaks so fast, he has to say the same thing twice or three times just to be understood. Shit is that rapid!!)
KRON:
So is "Packin'amacinthebackatheAc" part of that language? Or is that different? (They all laugh at how fast I rolled it off my tongue)
BIG PUN:
No that's just a little bit of a sliver, that's all.
FAT JOE:
No, that's just flippin' some rhymes. That ain't the lingo. Triz is DEFINITELY 100% Terror Squad lingo. That is a word that doesn't exist in any dictionary. That is something we created on our own and didn't bite from no other crew. We got our own language. We could all sit here and talk right now and you may understand a few words, but you won't catch the thoughts though.
BIG PUN:
(He starts talking to Young Prospect urging him to converse in the lingo. Prospect seems fed up with the whole course of events and politely refuses Pun at first) We gonna drop one for you. You gon' talk to me right?
PROSPECT:
(Obviously annoyed) Huh!?
BIG PUN:
He won't understand. Come on Pros', say it? For Real, serious.
PROSPECT:
Pun stop. (Shaking his head) Stop playin' wit' me. (He doesn't find this amusing at all)

BIG PUN:
You gotta do it, but go on.
PROSPECT:
I gotta reedie (is that a word?)
BIG PUN:
You gotta do it but for Real. You gotta big up Big Pun and Baby P. You gotta bring up Baby P. (Prospect's response, and Pun's subsequent reaction are nonsensical to my virgin ears. There were no combinations of letters or words that can easily be transcribed. Words like Big Pun & Baby P were intertwined with other words I'd get myself in trouble for just misspelling, and such.)
FAT JOE:
See, they just said a whole lot. But you ain't gonna find none of that in no dictionary!
KRON:
So Pun, how did you get the name Double Platinum Face?
BIG PUN:
(That gets a hearty laugh outta Pun-Pun! So I laugh right along with him) We was foolin' around, Man. But I am trickin' ladies for next album. Big Pun a.k.a. Killa!
KRON:
So how do you feel about the Terror Squad album coming out and giving some of these other Cats in your crew some Shine?
BIG PUN:
My #1 thing not money. It's cool, but I like making history. I like breakin' doors down. So when we make history with the platinum and the Grammy, that's what I like. And then we have a crew where every guy in it is lyrically nice. Everybody is just as lyrical as the next man. We're the first crew where everybody is just as lyrical. We'll battle your brains out!
KRON:
So everybody wants to know what's the story on Cuban Link? It's the highly anticipated joint right after the Terror Squad album. So talk to us, Baby!
CUBAN:
Cuban Link is workin' on his shit. But our first project is the Terror Squad joint. Then I'm just makin' things happen gradually. We already passed the first steps. The second step is to get the whole crew known. I'm known a little somethin' different from the different songs I've done like "Off The Books" another joint with DJ Honda. Armageddon is known too like that from other angles. But I'm tryin' to get the crew known before my album. It'll come after the Terror Squad joint. But we still startin' my album right now though.
KRON:
How would you describe your steeze? Because word on the streets is that you're the ladies man out of the Terror Squad. Of course, next to Pun here!
CUBAN:
No doubt, no doubt. It's probably just the face. That's it, Man. `Cause what I'm kickin' ain't no sweet shit. I ain't kickin' no sweet things like that. It's probably just the looks, I guess.
BIG PUN:
He's the first hardcore Papi Chulo out there!
FAT JOE:
But he'll take your girl and shoot your Man!
CUBAN:
Nah, I ain't nothin' nice.
FAT JOE:
Like when you see him, you'll definitely assume he's gonna make some shit for some girls. But Niggaz don't know he'll fuck you up too! He's the first one I could say that's like that. There ain't too many Rappers out there that are like that `cause most of `em are pussys anyway.
KRON:
OK, Triple Seis. We go from Armageddon to Triple Seis. Where does that leave `em off after Triple Seis?
SEIS:
It's over after that! Ain't no where else to go with that. But it was coincidence that it happened like that. It wasn't a planned out thing. My name is Miseis. Then because of my rhymes Pun was like, "You should be Triple Seis!"
BIG PUN:
He put his heart in the Rap. He was the one that used to do devilish Raps. That's what he was Rappin', that devilish shit.
SEIS:
My whole thing is, what I've been through is a lotta hate. So when I rhyme it's mostly kickin' shit that Niggaz'll feel. But they been through it and they never been able to say it to another Nigga. All my life my whole thing was always to boost the next Nigga. So I'll set it off to get Niggaz' hype. Then everybody else is comin' in with murder. It may sound better than my shit. But itıs just the fact that I set it off.
KRON:
Then where does Prospect come in?
PROSPECT:
I'm here.
BIG PUN:
Prospector, come on Prospect.
SEIS:
(Taking up for him) Just like the word means: Prospect is the future!
PROSPECT:
I'm here and I'm angry, Man!
KRON:
What are you angry about?
PROSPECT:
Life Man! I rap about life.
KRON:
Well I don't understand. Is life not fair or what?
PROSPECT:
Leave me alone Man. It's a piece of shit, Yo! EVERYTHING, Yo! Everything is fucked up! Everything is fucked up and I'm speakin' on what's fucked up, and people can't see what's fucked up. And I don't wanna speak on it now. You know?
BIG PUN:
He guides the blind by the hand. Take him for a walk through Hell and feed ya dome.

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